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Kill or Love
A downloadable visual novel for Windows, macOS, and Linux
A story about obsession, loneliness, and, based on your choices, varying amounts of murder.
Jack, a man with no memory of his childhood, is stuck in a hospital following a near-fatal injury. His girlfriend, meanwhile, is being held captive.
To make matters worse, Jack's nurse is Anna, the woman who kidnapped his girlfriend and who put Jack in the hospital in the first place. Anna is obsessed with him to an unhealthy degree, and the answer to why lies somewhere in the past.
This short visual novel follows Jack as he makes desperate plans to save the girl dearest to him, and as he remembers how Anna tore through his life.
- 28k words (a little over 2 hours)
- 2 choices at the end that branch the story into 4 different endings
- 1920x1080 resolution
- gorgeous sprites drawn by tan
Due to depictions of violence, not suitable for those under 15 years of age.
Now available for Android here.
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When I first read the title I thought it was gonna be a weird game where you meet girls and choose whether you would kill or love them. I didn't not realize the beauty of a game that I was about to step my foot in. This VN felt like I was addicted to an anime and I couldn't stop going through it till I reached the end (which totally took me longer than it should have). I'll be honest, the little happy ending you added in the end felt kind of off. I definitely wouldn't forgive someone for taking my mans, tying me up, and then pulling out my teeth lol. Anyways, I'm excited to see what else you make with your amazing writing skills!
I love the story even though I wish there were more options but, it's fun to speculate what is really going on so far. I this is going to be a 4 video series on my channel. Can't wait to play more!!
Who killed the dog?
Just started this game a few days ago and it was great! :D
I am loving the story so far. I haven't finished it yet.
Story is well written and I can't wait to finish it soon.
Keep up the great work!
This game...This damn game...It should be put In a museum! I goddamn love it so much. This game needs more appreciation, love, support!! Like, fr..Good job andy. ^-^
This game is something
I love it
You've made an amazing visual novel. The writing was astounding. The way you wrote the story got me super tense, and I could feel the goosebumps as I read it. Most of the visual novel games I've player were like danganrompa, root letter, and ace attorney, where there were a lot of interacting elements. However your game didn't need that. I was felt more immersed into the story and your writing shined more because of that.
Overall I enjoyed it and I highly recommend this game.
SPOILERS FOR ONE OF THE ENDINGS
First and foremost i'd like to preface this by saying that this was my first VN. I don't really have much experience in this field and the only reason i downloaded it was because the runtime wasn't very long, i made this account just to make a comment here expressing my thoughts.
But man, did this grip me. From the first time i read "Im going to kill someone, probably." to doing all 4 of the endings, i couldn't stop reading. The consistent good writing and the unique spin on the
frankly boring Yandere archetype was very, very refreshing. It made me very tense at moments, with a title like "Kill or Love" i expected the homeboy Jack to get killed at every turn, fearing he fucked up in some way.
Piecing together Grace her past was an interesting endeavor too, i feel like people can have multiple ways of perceiving it, it's cleverly done.
Visually, the game looked great. I'd like to give a shoutout to the artist who drew all the sprites. I know most of the backgrounds are just pictures with a Photoshop filter over them (i think, please correct me if im wrong..) but they fit in well regardless.
Though, my biggest gripe are the endings. Which would you considering the canon one? Is there a canon one at all? I personally felt no satisfaction with any of them, save for the Anna route. Though i do feel all the endings make sense in the context of how the player perceives the characters, and what they ultimately decide is right in this situation after being with Jack, and what Jack would do after remembering what his past was.
How did you come up with the ending where Jack kills the girls, then commits suicide? As i mentioned, it's not unrealistic for the character. I can see why he would do it, but i'm just curious as to how you came up with it.
Overall, i'd definitely give this a glowing approval, not that it means much from some random dude, but i don't think ill be forgetting Kill or Love anytime soon and definitely will be exploring more VNs in the future now that i've seen what the medium can really accomplish.
I'm greatly looking forward to your next VN, don't stop writing, you have real talent!
SPOILERS FOR TWO OF THE ENDINGS
Thank you very much. There are many great VNs out there for you to try next, but I should say that, in my opinion, they're generally paced more slowly than Kill or Love. This is not to say that they are better or worse for that, but it's something to keep in mind. For example, Umineko, probably my favorite visual novel (or series of visual novels, I guess), is 80 hours long. Good luck getting through that in one sitting.
Each ending is as valid as you want it to be. There is no canon. As for that one ending, it came to me so effortlessly I can't properly tell you how it happened. Everything about it felt inevitable, after those two choices. The opposite ending, the one where everyone lives, was much harder for me to write. It was difficult to not make it cheesy or forced, especially with the little time I had (I didn't want it to drag on). It is so tonally different from the other endings, and from the rest of the story, too, but I think I handled it decently. Jury's still out on whether I made it cheesy or not, though.
Hey man, thanks for the reply.
First and foremost, i'll definitely give Umineko a shot. Second of all, i can sort of understand what you mean. Jack, a man who feels deep guilt for murdering 2 innocents, just stabbed 2 more people. As a way to sort of pay for his crimes, he decides to commit suicide instead of living with the burden of the crushing guilt that he must've felt at that point.
It's for sure an interesting wrap-up, and despite how i said i felt no satisfaction with 3 out of 4 of the endings, i feel like you went about it in a very smart way.
Have a good one!
ps, the ending was cheesy as hell
good writing good dialogue
don't think i've breezed through a VN before. the music, writing, art and sound come together here in a very natural way that i have not really seen before even in paid VNs
i particularly liked the very punchy writing ("...like a fist that wouldn't unclench"), the tangible effects of the character's paranoia ("then a door slammed shut somewhere in the building"), and the fact that the story didn't need to take 5+ hours in order to get going ("i am going to kill someone. probably")
Thank you, that means a lot to me - the points you mention are exactly the things I tried my hardest to do right
Hey wait a min this game was published on my birthday now that makes me like the game even more
I've never been a huge fan of visual novels but this one is AMAZING! I loved the storyline and the plot twist just made it even better. The charecters and their sprites are also great. You can easily sympathize with Grace and even Anna after knowing what happened to her, wich makes it difficult to make those 2 choices at the end.
Speaking about choices, I felt like there could be more of them besides those 2 at the end so you would be able to interact more with the story, but that's fine. I did all 4 different endings and they were realy good.
The only thing that bothered me was Grace's "secret" about her family and the fact that the game simply doesn't tell you what is it. Also, after she tells Jack about it, that's never even mentioned again wich means that it wouldn't make much a difference if it wasn't there in the first place, so it I fells like it was kind of a waste. But everything besides that is pretty much perfect.
Kill or Love is a great VN and I strongly recommend it.
I'm glad you liked it! Regarding the thing that bothered you: it is never stated explicitly, but there are clues in the story of what the "secret" is. To me it felt more interesting and more tasteful to leave it at that. And although it isn't mentioned overtly later on, it does influence Grace's actions significantly.
I hope it makes more sense to you now
Yeah, I did realize some of those clues about her past but it was still kind of unclear to me. Don't get me wrong, having those clues scattered around and influencing her actions did make it interesting to theorize about what could be that secret. To be honest, what bothered me in particular was the fact of her telling Jack about it and then the game simply "hiding" it from you... maybe the real issue was just my own curiosity.
I also felt like it could be more interesting if the story developed more about that "secret" as it would make you sympathize even more with Grace, but that's just an idea of mine. She's a great character overall.
Just by curiosity, what inspired you to make this VN ?
I felt I could add my own little twist to the yandere archetype, specifically regarding characters' motivation. Another reason I made it was to see how well my writing would be received by a wider audience, since before this I'd only shown it to my friends.
Holy crap. This is one of the greatest visual novel I've ever played. The storyline is amazing, and the plot twist is just..Perfect honestly. I love it! This is such a great game. But one question..Are you gonna make another VN? ^^
Yes, I definitely will make another VN! It's very, very early in production, but it's coming. Thank you for your support!
Loved your VN and I knew that it would take me longer than your 2 hour estimated playing time as I read these visual novels out loud when I livestream them. I went over all four endings and gave my final thoughts as well. (Spoiler Alerts) I highly recommend playing this great VN yourself!
Great first VN to the developer Andy Church!
You can find my livestream done on Twitch re-uploaded to my Youtube channel in it's nearly 5 hour long entirety HERE:
Thank you! Five hours is a bit much for me to watch haha, but I did watch some of it! I'm glad you liked it, and keep up the great work!
I usually get bored of visual novels pretty quickly but this game is so investing that I couldn't stop playing, The story is incredible and even when you think you might know where the story will go next you really don't, I very strongly reccommend this game, it's the perfect blend of everything! Amazing experience